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Pissing contest

18 Feb

pissing contest 2I guess the last thing a blogger would want to do is get into a pissing contest with one of the most popular bloggers on WordPress. Yet here I am, throwing down the gauntlet at the feet of the infamous Opinionated Man, author of Harsh Reality, which boasts nearly 32,000 followers, myself included.

A recent post of his caught my eye. Its title was I am Now Pro-Choice! I was surprised when I saw that title pop up on my reader, since in a previous post he wrote, “41 years later — abortion is still murder.”

And in another post on his other blog, he wrote “abortion is indeed evil.” When I read that post and especially some of the inane comments people made, it prompted me to write my own post in response. So naturally, my curiosity was piqued when I read his claim to now being pro-choice.

It didn’t me take long to recognize that he was being…well, one might say facetious or possibly sarcastic. I say disingenuous. My first clue was when he wrote, “I have come up with some new methods to determine whether or not a baby ‘should be chosen.’” Then he proceeded to suggest putting a human baby on one side of a scale and whale baby on the other. Whichever weighs more should be “saved.”

He talked about placing babies on train tracks to find out if trains are pro-choice. He suggested rolling pregnant women down hills if they want abortions. He proposed shutting down all orphanages. He also implied that being pro-choice automatically makes you anti-gun and anti-war. And finally, he suggested that women use the Magic 8 ball to decide whether or not to have an abortion.

I suppose he was trying to be funny or sarcastic or something. I just thought he was being stupid and disrespectful.

He wrote that he was influenced to publish his post based upon pro-choice posts he’d read on WordPress. I commented, saying:

If this post was directly influenced by “pro-choice posts,” you either are reading some very strange posts or you are putting your own intransigent spin on whatever it is you’re reading. I’ve never read a post on WordPress where someone is proposing “killing babies.” And I don’t believe you have either.

That’s when he turned combative, something he often does when challenged. He wrote:

Every time you advocate for the killing of a fetus it shows you wish to murder children. Your ignorance on this subject is noted and has been noted for some time.”

Opinionated Man — or “OM,” as he refers to himself — and I will never, ever agree on this topic. But let’s get a few things straight. OM suggested that I advocate for abortion. I do not. As I wrote in an earlier post:

I am pro-life. I believe that every person should have the opportunity to live a long, productive, and fulfilling life. I believe that we are all pro-life. Except of course, for those who believe in killing babies or toddlers.

I am also pro-choice. That doesn’t mean I’m pro-abortion. I don’t think abortion is automatically the right choice for every woman who may be considering it. And I certainly don’t go around promoting abortion as the only solution, or even the best solution, to address unwanted and unplanned pregnancies.

So I do not, as OM implied, “advocate for the killing of a fetus.” I advocate for a woman’s right to choose for herself how to deal with her own pregnancy.

OM equates killing a fetus with murdering children. He posits that because I advocate for abortion (I don’t), that I wish to murder children (I don’t). I am not a sociopath who wishes to murder children. But somehow that is what his convoluted logic tells him.

The chicken and the egg

What I do believe is that a fetus is no more a baby (or a child) than an egg is a chicken. An egg may have the potential to become a chicken, but it’s not a chicken. A fetus has the potential to become a baby, but it is not a baby. Having an abortion is not murdering a child, just as scrambling an egg is not killing a chicken.

OM claims that I am ignorant on this subject. Apparently to him, having an opinion that is not identical to his is a sign of ignorance.

I’m not going to suggest that his position is ignorant, just because he said mine was. He has an opinion, which he is entitled to have, just as I am entitled to mine. But when I post my opinions, I back them up with facts and research and logic. I don’t just write bullshit.

I know there are a lot of people who don’t agree with my opinions, and that’s fine. But my posts on this topic are not full of really stupid, asinine blather that I suppose is OM’s attempt to make pro-choicers look, well, really stupid and asinine.

What it does, though, is make OM look really stupid and asinine. But hey, it’s his blog, so if he wants to sound like a complete idiot, that’s his prerogative. Given that his stated goal on his blog is “to offend everyone in the world at least once” with his words, he has certainly succeeded where I am concerned.

And that probably pleases him. His posts generate a lot of comments and he has almost 32,000 followers, so he knows how to gain a sizable audience.

On this highly controversial topic, OM comes across as self-righteous, sanctimonious, and with a holier-than-thou attitude. Maybe he fancies himself as the second coming of Jesus, with his blog as his pulpit and his 32,000 followers as his flock.

 
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122 responses to “Pissing contest

  1. Opinionated Man

    February 18, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Nice post. I don’t get into blog wars, so I hope you were expecting canon fire.

     
  2. Opinionated Man

    February 18, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Blah, (weren’t) typo

     
    • Doobster418

      February 18, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      Nope, didn’t intend to go to war with you…just to express a different (very different) opinion. Point/counterpoint.

       
      • Opinionated Man

        February 18, 2014 at 5:54 pm

        One I knew, but thanks for the 3 links to all my websites… :)

         
        • Doobster418

          February 18, 2014 at 5:55 pm

          Just being diligent.

           
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 5:55 pm

            Nah, you were trying to get a rise. I get it. Have a good one. :)

             
          • Doobster418

            February 18, 2014 at 6:04 pm

            Maybe you should consider reblogging my post on your site. That could generate quite a spirited debate among the members of your flock, OM!

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 6:05 pm

            Why would I send you views when you didn’t even reblog my website, you pingbacked through the backdoor?

             
          • Doobster418

            February 18, 2014 at 6:07 pm

            Okay. Quid pro quo. I’ll reblog your post if you’ll reblog mine. Sounds reasonable to me.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 6:08 pm

            Doesn’t work that way buddy. You had your chance to ask me to do that, I might have said yes. Instead you pingbacked like a sneakthief without permission. Settle for what you got. This will be my last response as I have better things to do. -OM

             
  3. Trent Lewin

    February 18, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Doobster, well posted. I’ve run into OM before, by his own admission he adopts a culture of collecting follower and wants to make money doing this. I have no problem with that at all; to each their own. But I don’t really care one way or the other about anything he has to say as a result. He’s irrelevant. I’m not claiming to be relevant myself, to be honest; I’ll never have his following, and if he wants to be smug and um, opinionated doing that, so be it. Good fortune to us all.

     
    • Opinionated Man

      February 18, 2014 at 6:07 pm

      Such LOVE!

       
      • Trent Lewin

        February 18, 2014 at 6:09 pm

        Shouldn’t you be out collecting followers, hmmm? That’s the secret to mad riches on the internet, isn’t it? What did you tell me when you were smugging off – you have half a million views etc? You probably have a million now. And honestly, I think that’s kind of cool. But so what? Tell me.

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 6:11 pm

          See here is the thing Trent. You emailed me with an article and I read it, because we have a mutual friend in Wilder. But then I see you blasting my name all over WordPress. Funny how that works huh? Now you want me to speak to you civil? As I just said to dooster, doesn’t work that. You two take care. -OM

           
          • Trent Lewin

            February 18, 2014 at 6:15 pm

            OM, seriously. “Blasting my name all over WordPress”? Not even close. Total mischaracterization, and it says a lot about you that you would say it this way. It was one blog. I agreed with what one person said, that’s it. Like I give a crap about you enough to run about slagging you – why would I possibly care about anything related to you? Go back to your shock value stat collecting – bad enough you’re trolling Doobster’s blog to see who might show up to support or slag you. I don’t want you being civil to me – if you can’t discern sarcasm when you see it, you got issues.

            Wilder is so much better at actually being honest and decent in interacting with people than you that it’s not even funny. You have no class; she has tons.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 6:15 pm

            [He says as he talks on a post about me and mentions my name]

            Trent… grow a brain.

             
          • Trent Lewin

            February 18, 2014 at 6:17 pm

            You’re an utter idiot. I am not stalking you, moron, I am commenting on Doobster’s blog, something I do often. His topic today happens to be you. Now, find your cave, crawl back into it, or better yet, head out trolling for some followers. You’ll get no respect from me, period, and I will not bother responding to you again. You are a waste of time.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 6:18 pm

            Are you done?

             
  4. Lorraine

    February 18, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Is this what you bloggers do to get more likes? At least you weren’t called a F**king judgmental goof like I was by a fellow blogger. But of course I was talking about Pope Joan… LOL

     
    • Opinionated Man

      February 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      Yes, this is what they do to try to steal views because they obviously can’t just write their own stuff. Kind of sad actually.

       
      • Doobster418

        February 18, 2014 at 6:17 pm

        Sorry, OM, but once again, you are wrong. I was not trying to steal views from you. I was responding to one of your posts and, as you noted, I inserted links in my post to three of yours. I know my audience is puny compared with yours, but if anything, I was giving you the publicity you so crave and was providing others who may not have had the dubious pleasure of reading your blogs, links to them.

        So you’re welcome!

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 6:18 pm

          Then take an honest lesson. Don’t pingback like a thief.

           
  5. Opinionated Man

    February 18, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Reblogged this on HarsH ReaLiTy and commented:

    Trolls want me to reblog them. Ok, you asked me to. -OM (aka the second Jesus apparently)

     
  6. Teela Hart

    February 18, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    What the hell is a pingback?

     
    • Doobster418

      February 18, 2014 at 6:43 pm

      It’s when you write a post that has a link in it to another blogger’s post. That blogger then gets what is called a “pingback” advising him or her that someone else included a link to their post in another blog post. I put links in this post to three of OM’s posts, so he got 3 “pingbacks” from WordPress telling him that I included those links in my post. I didn’t realize that in doing so, I was,. according to OM, being like a thief. But then again, he believes I wish to murder children, so what can I say?

       
    • Opinionated Man

      February 18, 2014 at 6:46 pm

      The difference Teela is when you “reblog” you actually physically repost the “post” you are speaking of. When you “pingback” you can then write whatever you want, without including the original words. You also can “sneak” your link into the comments, which is exactly what Doobster did. Not on one website or one post, on both my sites and multiple posts. But this was NOT an attempt to steal views mind you.

       
      • Doobster418

        February 18, 2014 at 6:53 pm

        By putting a link in a post, you are giving interested readers the opportunity to link directly to the post to which you were referring by merely clicking on the link. It’s not rocket science. In all the years that I have been blogging, I have never before (until today) reblogged someone else’s post. I have always, however, included a link back to the post I was referencing. Never before has anyone been critical of me for following that protocol, nor has anyone before ever accused me of “stealing views.” But I guess that’s why he calls himself an “opinionated man.”

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 6:55 pm

          Maybe because no one had views worth stealing Doobster. By your own admission you want my followers to see your “remarkable words.” So to now act like you don’t understand the difference is just… amusing. Honestly, keep going. I am getting a kick out of it!

           
          • Doobster418

            February 18, 2014 at 7:01 pm

            I do understand the difference between a reblog and a pingback. I’ve just never done the former and have always done the latter when referring back to another post.

            But I did misspeak. I did, in fact, once before reblog a post. It was my own post that I reblogged, though. I reblogged a Hallmark Holiday post that I had written about two years earlier (before I was on WordPress) in response to a recent WordPress Daily Prompt.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:03 pm

            I don’t care about that and I wouldn’t have even looked. My point is that there IS a real difference, as long as you acknowledge that then that is ALL I am after.

             
          • Doobster418

            February 18, 2014 at 7:05 pm

            Well, I do acknowledge that there is a real difference between a reblog and a pingback. Just like there is a real difference between killing a fetus and murdering a child. As long as you acknowledge that, then that’s all I’m after.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:05 pm

            Go back and read my comments. I did acknowledge that I “could” look the other way for a fetus under 6 weeks. So if you accept that as “acknowledgement” then I guess we are making progress.

             
          • Doobster418

            February 18, 2014 at 7:07 pm

            A small step for man, a giant step for Opinionated Man.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:08 pm

            But in all fairness I ALSO said I would never use the words “ok or for” in regards to that. I believe that is a fair statement for someone that can acknowledge that mistakes happen. I once told another pro-choicer that I am in no way asking for people to “live with a mistake” I am simply asking people not to stop a heart. I find it foolish and murderous to wait after 6 weeks to get an abortion.

             
          • Mythoughts76

            February 19, 2014 at 5:20 am

            Oh you two are acting like children.. were you siblings in a past life?

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 19, 2014 at 7:58 am

            There is a very real possibility we might have been. If so.. I was the more attractive, smarter one. Is that ok?

             
          • Doobster418

            February 19, 2014 at 7:59 am

            Well, since I am not a believer in reincarnation, you can be whatever you choose to be. It’s all okay with me.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 19, 2014 at 8:00 am

            YES! [screenshot taken]

             
      • Teela Hart

        February 18, 2014 at 7:23 pm

        Thanks for the info/ warning I guess?
        I am not oriented in the direction of trolling ( I had to ask my daughter about trolling.)
        BTW: You know what they say, opinions are like assholes, everybody’s got one. Including me.
        Just keepin’ it real OM. Sometimes our reality is harshed just a little. When a person posts an opinion, the backlash is bound to happen. But you know that already, don’t you? : )

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 7:24 pm

          Sure, where do you see me bothered by that?

           
          • Teela Hart

            February 18, 2014 at 7:27 pm

            Keepin’ it real again, yes.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:27 pm

            Where?

             
          • Teela Hart

            February 18, 2014 at 7:31 pm

            When you have an opinion, by it’s very definition, you will be bothered by the opposing opinion. If you are not bothered, you are not human. : )

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:33 pm

            Ok, but you said I was expressing this. I fail to see how. I wrote my post, he/she wrote his/hers. I didn’t censor or remove his links.

            I really find it amusing when people say “I am bothered by another opinion” when I do nothing to silence. People just want to be able to parade stuff on my website for free is all. That is the true point here.

             
          • Teela Hart

            February 18, 2014 at 7:43 pm

            OK. I concede. You are the one who re-blogged an opposing, somewhat scathing, opinion in order to get a response.
            Supply and demand.
            Not people; Wal-Mart and K-Mart. The order of business.
            Keeping it real, did you re-blog to bring traffic and have the opportunity to respond on your own turf?
            If traffic, I get that. If a personal defense of a wrong you feel was perpetrated against you. I get that too.
            I’m naive to these things OM.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:44 pm

            Neither. He asked me to reblog. So I did after he did.

             
          • Teela Hart

            February 18, 2014 at 7:45 pm

            : )

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:47 pm

            I don’t need anyone else’s blog for views or traffic Teela. I have been clear on that. In fact, I am hurting my blog right now by doing this. I don’t care, but doing this turns off my followers. But the point is, I cared.

             
          • Teela Hart

            February 18, 2014 at 7:48 pm

            I know.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:50 pm

            Good.

             
  7. Trent Lewin

    February 18, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Doobster, dude, don’t feed him. Not worth it.

     
    • Doobster418

      February 18, 2014 at 7:03 pm

      No worries, Trent. I’m getting as big a kick out of it as he is.

       
      • Opinionated Man

        February 18, 2014 at 7:04 pm

        You know Doobster, I actually believe you are. That, you may not believe this, actually pleases me.

         
      • Trent Lewin

        February 18, 2014 at 7:04 pm

        It’s all good.

         
    • Opinionated Man

      February 18, 2014 at 7:03 pm

      Too late. I have been fed. Trent stop talking about me! I am starting to feel a man crush seirously.

       
  8. sarahg7

    February 18, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Wow. I’m disappointed honestly.This was written fairly well, and I understood both sides of the story (as shown here) until the very end. You calling OM “stupid and asinine” is just flat out rude. If one wrongs you, you don’t go and wrong them right back. And another thing, I’ve seen the comments that you guys are making here, and it sounds like a couple of teenagers fighting with each other. I will no defend anyone’s behavior here, because I believe in niceness for everyone. Now, seriously, HAVE A GOOD DAY!

     
    • Doobster418

      February 18, 2014 at 8:14 pm

      Well, in my own defense, OM referred to my views on this subject as “ignorant,” he said that I am advocating “killing babies,” which I’m not, and that I am also wishing to murder children, which I’m not. I thought that was pretty rude and they were, indeed, stupid and asinine things to say. But yeah, we both are stubborn and have gotten carried away. But I guess that’s why I titled this post “Pissing contest.”

       
      • Opinionated Man

        February 18, 2014 at 8:15 pm

        Doobster I think you wasted a little finger energy on this one lol… :)

         
      • Opinionated Man

        February 18, 2014 at 8:16 pm

        Maybe we are just bored… actually I know I am bored. I am at work. :)

         
        • Doobster418

          February 18, 2014 at 8:18 pm

          I gotta go walk the dog and then it’s off to bed. So, having used up all of my finger energy for one day, I’m going to sign off for the night.

           
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 8:19 pm

            Jal ja. Nite. :)

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 8:19 pm

            Back to my website then. Till tomorrow. :)

             
      • sarahg7

        February 18, 2014 at 8:16 pm

        starts loudly singing “why can’t we be friends?” hahah. we all just need to learn to get along. Each person has their own views and each one is entitled to it. Name calling, on either part, is unnecessary.

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 8:53 pm

          Yea… but we are men. We love to name call. It is kind of a sport.

           
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 8:53 pm

          ;)

           
          • sarahg7

            February 19, 2014 at 9:20 am

            It’s funny, I must actually start to believe that because my boyfriend says the same thing all the time. He says it’s how “guys get along.”

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 19, 2014 at 9:41 am

            We need a reason to go for beers right?

             
          • sarahg7

            February 19, 2014 at 2:35 pm

            says who? ;)

             
  9. briannaandkat

    February 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Why are you so mad? It didn’t take me long to figure out OM was being facetious and sarcastic and I am not mad. It’s called a joke. A lot of pro-choicers are “stupid and asinine” as you said just like some pro-lifers, just look at the picture of the board I blogged today full of propaganda set up on my college campus. They had no significant evidence other than a huge disgusting picture of a aborted fetus. I didn’t even stick around to really figure out if it was pro-choice or pro-life.

    (I’m pro-choice)

    –Kat

     
    • Doobster418

      February 18, 2014 at 7:30 pm

      I wasn’t “mad.” As I wrote in the comments section where he reblogged my posts, I am not offended by OM and I am a regular reader of both of his blogs. But I was bothered not by his opinions about abortion, but by the flippant way he expressed them in his post. Rolling a woman down a hill if she wants an abortion? Using a Magic 8 ball to make such a heart-rending decision on a very personal and private matter? Yeah, that got a rise out of me, so I expressed my displeasure in my blog.

       
      • Opinionated Man

        February 18, 2014 at 7:36 pm

        What do you define “rise” as Doobster? Merriam defines it as

        9

        a: to become heartened or elated

        b: to increase in fervor or intensity

         
        • Doobster418

          February 18, 2014 at 7:50 pm

          From the idioms and phrases in freedictionary.com:

          “to get a rise out of somebody” means to succeed in annoying someone.

           
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 7:51 pm

            Merriam says to “rise” means to elevate intensity and gives the example of anger. But we will go with your freedictionary…

             
  10. briannaandkat

    February 18, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Please excuse the a vs. an typo

    –Kat

     
  11. Amber Perea

    February 18, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    The only thing I have to say is, in defense of OM, is that I submitted to his blog answering a series of questions (if you recall) and something I was passionate about was a woman’s right to choose. Now knowing how passionately (and sarcastically) he views the subject…I have to say he was extremely respectful about posting it and had nice things to say in general about the whole piece even if part of it’s contents were incredibly offensive to him. So, with that in mind, I think he’s not as quick to offensive. That’s only a personal opinion, of course, and I am completely in your corner in respect to the content of this post. :)

     
    • Opinionated Man

      February 18, 2014 at 7:54 pm

      That was the “good” OM Amber. He retired an hour ago unfortunately. =\

       
      • Amber Perea

        February 18, 2014 at 8:13 pm

        Well, I always love when things get more interesting… ;)

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 18, 2014 at 8:14 pm

          lmao… :)

           
          • Amber Perea

            February 18, 2014 at 8:17 pm

            Hey, with great shoes and whatnot. You can’t have 30K + followers without pissing off a few. And you know us women hate it when men weigh in women’s rights. ;)

            However, if you have been sucessful enough to monetize your blog, I can’t hate you, I envy you. Shock away. :)

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 8:18 pm

            And in that comment, I do appreciate it. Thanks. You would be surprised, see above comments from Trent, how many would “hate” on a father for simply wanting to write for a living so he can take care of his kids. Is that evil? I don’t think it is. I am sure Doobster doesn’t either. Again, I appreciate that Amber. -OM

             
          • Amber Perea

            February 18, 2014 at 8:26 pm

            That is just crazy. I would give my eyeteeth to be payed to do this full time. I mean, talk about your dream job. I do it for free because I love it. But if someone offered to pay me? I’d be over the moon.

            Truthfully, all of us that blog would be. It’s silly to think that someone is not a “good” or “worthy” blogger simply for having the ability to dare the impossible dream of being paid to blog. It’s a dream come true. :)

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 18, 2014 at 8:27 pm

            I couldn’t agree more. :)

             
  12. mewhoami

    February 18, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    Well, this was entertaining. What’s most important, is that you two are having a good time. :) Enjoy!

     
  13. pulpfictionme

    February 18, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    HAHAHA this thread made my night. OM has an entirely different motive for writing which has its own merits. Recently he talked about how he will never post pictures of himself or tell you details about his life. He doesn’t write in a way to say, “hey world, this is who I am.” He writes to attract an audience.

    However to OM, over the past year you have been growing your blog. Now that you have so many followers I think there is a sense of power that comes from it. I mean, you have a larger audience than the New York Times,lol. There are a lot of positive directions you could take your blog if you chose to. Either way I wish you the best on what ever direction you take.

    Mindful: I fully agree in the statements you made. You write more from your heart and try and tell the world what you think and feel and appeal to them in that way. Another way to make your writing more effective could be making it less hostile. You have a lot of valid points that get missed in the hype. You wont change anyone’s minds or hearts by insulting them.

    Anyways, this thread made my night,lol. Hope this thread didn’t cause any stress outside of the cyberweb. Life is too short wasted on arguments that don’t go anywhere.

     
    • Opinionated Man

      February 19, 2014 at 6:13 am

      :) I appreciate the words. In all fairness I do many things with my website behind the scenes such as helping new bloggers. I am not the new York times though, but thanks for the smile. -OM

       
    • Doobster418

      February 19, 2014 at 7:57 am

      I only get hostile when I am pissed off. And I only get pissed off when I encounter hostility. Oh, man, this is so confusing! Anyway, I’m glad that we made your night!

       
  14. TraceyLynnTobin

    February 19, 2014 at 3:36 am

    I’m not jumping in on the little blogger war that is going on here because that’s just not my thing and life is too short to get all stressed out and defensive at each other’s opinions. I just wanted to write a quick reply to say that I agree with your “pro-life AND pro-choice” ideas. I don’t like the idea of abortion myself and I know that I personally could never do it because even a week-old fetus FEELS like a baby to me. But on the other side of the coin I am 100% for a woman’s right to choose for herself because things aren’t always as cut and dry as “I don’t want to have this baby”. There are tons of possibilities (maybe the woman has medical problems and would be putting her own life at risk by having a baby, maybe the pregnant woman in question is a thirteen-year-old girl who was raped, etc), and forcing women to have babies that they may not have intended to have or CANNOT have safely is a horrible thing to me. That’s my two cents.

     
    • Doobster418

      February 19, 2014 at 7:55 am

      Thanks for your response. I definitely got more than two cents worth!

       
  15. Trent Lewin

    February 19, 2014 at 5:24 am

    Doobster, wow. Good discussion, maybe as good as it can get anyway, and certainly got some attention.

     
    • Opinionated Man

      February 19, 2014 at 6:21 am

      Trent is back!!! Hurrah!

       
      • Trent Lewin

        February 19, 2014 at 9:24 am

        Why are you bothering me, man?

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 19, 2014 at 9:37 am

          You like saying my name and I just found I like saying yours is all.

           
  16. Ruth

    February 19, 2014 at 5:39 am

    A few observations about the comments:

    If you are concerned about pingbacks being a sneaky way to drive readership from your blog and you don’t want that for some reason you can turn it off. There is an option in settings to do that. People can still link to your blog, but it won’t show the pingback in the comments on the original blogger’s site.
    If a post is reblogged any readers won’t have to click over to the original poster’s blog to read the post. If it’s linked you have to click over to the original poster’s blog to read it, generating views.
    When a blogger pings back to a post I rarely, if ever, click on the pingback notification in the original poster’s comments. But when a post is reblogged the comments of the reblogger appear in the comments of the original poster in their entirety. That could generate a pretty lengthy comment in the original poster’s comments section if the reblogger generates and entire post of their own.
    If a person does click on the pingback, the pinger hasn’t technically stolen any views. An interested reader would have first had to be visiting the original poster’s blog and drilled down to the comments to see the pingback to begin with. I fail to see how that is stealing viewers.

     
    • Opinionated Man

      February 19, 2014 at 6:17 am

      Ruth I merely was pointing out the difference, as you have, and that “sliding in of a pingback” is a sneak way of connecting. You may not click it, but on my site those do get clicked hundreds of times sometimes. I host an open website though, censor free, so I do have to make the extra effort.

      In Doobster’s case this was said as a jab. If I was really concerned I would have just ignored him, he knows this. I am sure. -OM

       
      • Ruth

        February 19, 2014 at 6:23 am

        So this has really just been a couple of ornery old men bickering about nada, then, really? Carry on.

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 19, 2014 at 6:25 am

          Kind of, but we truly do have opposite views on this… equally strong. I don’t war on bloggers though, even if the post is 100% about me.

           
          • Ruth

            February 19, 2014 at 6:34 am

            I meant the whole pingback thing.

            The subject matter of the post is another thing entirely. I happen to agree with Doobster about much of what he’s written. Many pro-lifers feel that the logical conclusion of a pro-choice advocate is necessarily pro-abortion and/or pro-death. I think that’s more of a caricature of the pro-choice position and intended to garner pro-life sympathy based on shock-value.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 19, 2014 at 6:40 am

            If you wish to portray it as such, that is your right. I find that an odd statement since if that were true my fictional abortion jabs would get larger and larger. This is possibly the most offensive post I will write this year. If you think I “only” wrote it for shock… ok, your opinion. :)

             
          • Ruth

            February 19, 2014 at 6:45 am

            Well, surely, an opinionated man like yourself expected some equally opinionated views from others. ;) I’m certain by now your skin is appropriately thick.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 19, 2014 at 6:46 am

            I think it is. According to many lately it is rather thin. lol ;)

             
  17. funwithchalk

    February 19, 2014 at 6:04 am

    I had my son two weeks before my 18th birthday. The day I found out I was pregnant I burst out in tears, the doctor looked at me and said,” well first we got to decide if we’re going to take this to term.” I cried even more. “well what about adoption” I cried louder. “what about keeping the baby” I cried.
    I present to you that is simply a impossible situation, no matter what one decides that woman (and hopefully the father) have to live with the consequences. Take my friend for example, she got pregnant when she was sixteen. Her parents were against the whole thing and eventually she moved in with the baby daddy. He turned out to be a control freak but she married him and she was stuck there.
    I can’t tell you what the right decision is but I can tell you its far more complicated than those who have never been in that moment to understand.

     
  18. TheShitShowThatIsMyLife

    February 19, 2014 at 6:43 am

    At least he doesn’t refer to his followers as disciples like that one douche bag. It’s probably the defining characteristic that let’s me continue to follow OM despite not agreeing or being interested in much of what he writes. Seems like a decent human though.

     
    • Doobster418

      February 19, 2014 at 8:10 am

      Yeah, he probably is a decent human being, despite his extreme views on abortion and his being a Denver Broncos fan.

       
      • TheShitShowThatIsMyLife

        February 19, 2014 at 8:23 am

        Haha yeah that’s true. I’m actually not even sure he holds extreme views, I get this impression that he likes to pretend he has them to piss people off.

         
  19. cupidgoesfishing

    February 19, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Excellently written! Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and we have the freedom to publicize it – but that also gives us the right to disagree.
    Being pro-choice does NOT mean one advocates abortion.
    Of course maybe if OM ever grew a vagina, he would better understand that abortion is not a black or white issue and that the ramifications of having one / not having one are greater on women.

     
    • Doobster418

      February 19, 2014 at 9:54 pm

      Thanks for your kind words. Unfortunately, it is, for many, black or white, and they don’t take into considerations the downstream implications if suddenly abortion were to be illegal or banned.

       
    • Opinionated Man

      February 20, 2014 at 8:00 am

      I will let you know when I grow one.

      Not hawking your thread anymore Doobster, just stealing a quote. ;) Have a good one! -OM

       
      • Doobster418

        February 20, 2014 at 8:06 am

        No worries, OM. Hawk away!

         
        • Opinionated Man

          February 20, 2014 at 8:06 am

          You made my top 11 Doobster for the year. But, I don’t put names. I hope you take the post the right way.

           
          • Doobster418

            February 20, 2014 at 8:18 am

            What? Not the top 10. Damn, that’s like coming in 4th at the Olympics…no metal.

             
          • Opinionated Man

            February 20, 2014 at 8:21 am

            LOL, and by a tenth of a second too! Better luck in 4 years? ;)

             
  20. marcus

    February 21, 2014 at 12:18 am

    the comments blasted back and forth is more entertaining. What was this post about anyway.
    I forgot…but I’m pretty sure I enjoyed it.

     
  21. Dylan Dailey

    March 6, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    I’m late checking in here and it looks like the party’s over. But I would remind everyone that a blogger creates a persona through their posts, and much of it is very calculated. A blogger may put out a character that is a lot like themselves, or maybe the self they would like to be, or even something completely different. As a reader, I approach the material with this in mind. Therefore, outrageous statements don’t typically offend me because I figure the blogger does that to get a reaction. Some may even go so far as to deliberately take a controversial line to get more of a reaction. Especially if they don’t put their own name on such material. It’s hard to take that approach seriously, and one is never sure if one is actually being graced with the actual opinion of the blogger or not. I trust someone a lot more if they take a reasoned approach and don’t act like their opinion is the center of the universe. At some point, I decided Opinionated Man’s blog persona was that of an egomaniacal asshole. He may or may not really be that character. But I don’t care. That’s tolerable to me only to a certain point. Then I stop reading. But that’s me. I believe you are what you pretend to be–which is the moral of Mother Night, a novel by Kurt Vonnegut, who was a writer who felt very strongly about the vibe you put out into the world and being kinder and more respectful to other humans. Life is about more than blog views, I think he would say…

     
    • Doobster418

      March 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm

      Better late than never, they say.

      I’m sure some of OM’s more over-the-top posts are intended to spark controversy, generate traffic to his site, and solicit numerous comments. With 33,000 followers, whether you like him or not, he seems to be pretty successful at it. And sometimes, I can’t help but react to what he’s posted, even though I know I should probably just let it go.

       
    • Opinionated Man

      March 31, 2014 at 8:29 am

      Personally, I am ok with egomaniacal asshole. Thanks! -OM

       
  22. wefalllaughing

    July 6, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Oh My! I am sorry I missed this! These comments are great. I just found your blog and I love your writing (this post in particular is very well done). I follow OM and enjoy his writing and sense of humor although we disagree on almost everything. I am so happy to have found a blog with equal wit and less well…disagreement.

     
    • Doobster418

      July 6, 2014 at 6:27 pm

      Well, I’m so happy that you found a blog with wit and “less disagreement” in my blog. Welcome.

       
  23. pavanneh

    July 6, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    What an interesting post. I followed your link from another post. I agree with everything you said. I do “follow” OM and have responded in comments to several things he says and we agree to disagree on several points. One of them abortion. I am of the same mind as you where this issue is concerned. It was a balanced and well thought out post. The replies were just as informative and you didn’t pull punches or get disrespectful. Congrats!

     
    • Doobster418

      July 6, 2014 at 6:47 pm

      Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed it. It is difficult, sometimes, to remain civil in the comments section of a post, but I try to keep it that way as much as I can.

       

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