Pissing contest

pissing contest 2I guess the last thing a blogger would want to do is get into a pissing contest with one of the most popular bloggers on WordPress. Yet here I am, throwing down the gauntlet at the feet of the infamous Opinionated Man, author of Harsh Reality, which boasts nearly 32,000 followers, myself included.

A recent post of his caught my eye. Its title was I am Now Pro-Choice! I was surprised when I saw that title pop up on my reader, since in a previous post he wrote, “41 years later — abortion is still murder.”

And in another post on his other blog, he wrote “abortion is indeed evil.” When I read that post and especially some of the inane comments people made, it prompted me to write my own post in response. So naturally, my curiosity was piqued when I read his claim to now being pro-choice.

It didn’t me take long to recognize that he was being…well, one might say facetious or possibly sarcastic. I say disingenuous. My first clue was when he wrote, “I have come up with some new methods to determine whether or not a baby ‘should be chosen.’” Then he proceeded to suggest putting a human baby on one side of a scale and whale baby on the other. Whichever weighs more should be “saved.”

He talked about placing babies on train tracks to find out if trains are pro-choice. He suggested rolling pregnant women down hills if they want abortions. He proposed shutting down all orphanages. He also implied that being pro-choice automatically makes you anti-gun and anti-war. And finally, he suggested that women use the Magic 8 ball to decide whether or not to have an abortion.

I suppose he was trying to be funny or sarcastic or something. I just thought he was being stupid and disrespectful.

He wrote that he was influenced to publish his post based upon pro-choice posts he’d read on WordPress. I commented, saying:

If this post was directly influenced by “pro-choice posts,” you either are reading some very strange posts or you are putting your own intransigent spin on whatever it is you’re reading. I’ve never read a post on WordPress where someone is proposing “killing babies.” And I don’t believe you have either.

That’s when he turned combative, something he often does when challenged. He wrote:

Every time you advocate for the killing of a fetus it shows you wish to murder children. Your ignorance on this subject is noted and has been noted for some time.”

Opinionated Man — or “OM,” as he refers to himself — and I will never, ever agree on this topic. But let’s get a few things straight. OM suggested that I advocate for abortion. I do not. As I wrote in an earlier post:

I am pro-life. I believe that every person should have the opportunity to live a long, productive, and fulfilling life. I believe that we are all pro-life. Except of course, for those who believe in killing babies or toddlers.

I am also pro-choice. That doesn’t mean I’m pro-abortion. I don’t think abortion is automatically the right choice for every woman who may be considering it. And I certainly don’t go around promoting abortion as the only solution, or even the best solution, to address unwanted and unplanned pregnancies.

So I do not, as OM implied, “advocate for the killing of a fetus.” I advocate for a woman’s right to choose for herself how to deal with her own pregnancy.

OM equates killing a fetus with murdering children. He posits that because I advocate for abortion (I don’t), that I wish to murder children (I don’t). I am not a sociopath who wishes to murder children. But somehow that is what his convoluted logic tells him.

The chicken and the egg

What I do believe is that a fetus is no more a baby (or a child) than an egg is a chicken. An egg may have the potential to become a chicken, but it’s not a chicken. A fetus has the potential to become a baby, but it is not a baby. Having an abortion is not murdering a child, just as scrambling an egg is not killing a chicken.

OM claims that I am ignorant on this subject. Apparently to him, having an opinion that is not identical to his is a sign of ignorance.

I’m not going to suggest that his position is ignorant, just because he said mine was. He has an opinion, which he is entitled to have, just as I am entitled to mine. But when I post my opinions, I back them up with facts and research and logic. I don’t just write bullshit.

I know there are a lot of people who don’t agree with my opinions, and that’s fine. But my posts on this topic are not full of really stupid, asinine blather that I suppose is OM’s attempt to make pro-choicers look, well, really stupid and asinine.

What it does, though, is make OM look really stupid and asinine. But hey, it’s his blog, so if he wants to sound like a complete idiot, that’s his prerogative. Given that his stated goal on his blog is “to offend everyone in the world at least once” with his words, he has certainly succeeded where I am concerned.

And that probably pleases him. His posts generate a lot of comments and he has almost 32,000 followers, so he knows how to gain a sizable audience.

On this highly controversial topic, OM comes across as self-righteous, sanctimonious, and with a holier-than-thou attitude. Maybe he fancies himself as the second coming of Jesus, with his blog as his pulpit and his 32,000 followers as his flock.

127 thoughts on “Pissing contest

  1. Doobster, well posted. I’ve run into OM before, by his own admission he adopts a culture of collecting follower and wants to make money doing this. I have no problem with that at all; to each their own. But I don’t really care one way or the other about anything he has to say as a result. He’s irrelevant. I’m not claiming to be relevant myself, to be honest; I’ll never have his following, and if he wants to be smug and um, opinionated doing that, so be it. Good fortune to us all.

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      • Shouldn’t you be out collecting followers, hmmm? That’s the secret to mad riches on the internet, isn’t it? What did you tell me when you were smugging off – you have half a million views etc? You probably have a million now. And honestly, I think that’s kind of cool. But so what? Tell me.

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        • See here is the thing Trent. You emailed me with an article and I read it, because we have a mutual friend in Wilder. But then I see you blasting my name all over WordPress. Funny how that works huh? Now you want me to speak to you civil? As I just said to dooster, doesn’t work that. You two take care. -OM

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          • OM, seriously. “Blasting my name all over WordPress”? Not even close. Total mischaracterization, and it says a lot about you that you would say it this way. It was one blog. I agreed with what one person said, that’s it. Like I give a crap about you enough to run about slagging you – why would I possibly care about anything related to you? Go back to your shock value stat collecting – bad enough you’re trolling Doobster’s blog to see who might show up to support or slag you. I don’t want you being civil to me – if you can’t discern sarcasm when you see it, you got issues.

            Wilder is so much better at actually being honest and decent in interacting with people than you that it’s not even funny. You have no class; she has tons.

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  2. Is this what you bloggers do to get more likes? At least you weren’t called a F**king judgmental goof like I was by a fellow blogger. But of course I was talking about Pope Joan… LOL

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      • Sorry, OM, but once again, you are wrong. I was not trying to steal views from you. I was responding to one of your posts and, as you noted, I inserted links in my post to three of yours. I know my audience is puny compared with yours, but if anything, I was giving you the publicity you so crave and was providing others who may not have had the dubious pleasure of reading your blogs, links to them.

        So you’re welcome!

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    • It’s when you write a post that has a link in it to another blogger’s post. That blogger then gets what is called a “pingback” advising him or her that someone else included a link to their post in another blog post. I put links in this post to three of OM’s posts, so he got 3 “pingbacks” from WordPress telling him that I included those links in my post. I didn’t realize that in doing so, I was,. according to OM, being like a thief. But then again, he believes I wish to murder children, so what can I say?

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    • The difference Teela is when you “reblog” you actually physically repost the “post” you are speaking of. When you “pingback” you can then write whatever you want, without including the original words. You also can “sneak” your link into the comments, which is exactly what Doobster did. Not on one website or one post, on both my sites and multiple posts. But this was NOT an attempt to steal views mind you.

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  3. Wow. I’m disappointed honestly.This was written fairly well, and I understood both sides of the story (as shown here) until the very end. You calling OM “stupid and asinine” is just flat out rude. If one wrongs you, you don’t go and wrong them right back. And another thing, I’ve seen the comments that you guys are making here, and it sounds like a couple of teenagers fighting with each other. I will no defend anyone’s behavior here, because I believe in niceness for everyone. Now, seriously, HAVE A GOOD DAY!

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  4. Why are you so mad? It didn’t take me long to figure out OM was being facetious and sarcastic and I am not mad. It’s called a joke. A lot of pro-choicers are “stupid and asinine” as you said just like some pro-lifers, just look at the picture of the board I blogged today full of propaganda set up on my college campus. They had no significant evidence other than a huge disgusting picture of a aborted fetus. I didn’t even stick around to really figure out if it was pro-choice or pro-life.

    (I’m pro-choice)

    –Kat

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    • I wasn’t “mad.” As I wrote in the comments section where he reblogged my posts, I am not offended by OM and I am a regular reader of both of his blogs. But I was bothered not by his opinions about abortion, but by the flippant way he expressed them in his post. Rolling a woman down a hill if she wants an abortion? Using a Magic 8 ball to make such a heart-rending decision on a very personal and private matter? Yeah, that got a rise out of me, so I expressed my displeasure in my blog.

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  5. The only thing I have to say is, in defense of OM, is that I submitted to his blog answering a series of questions (if you recall) and something I was passionate about was a woman’s right to choose. Now knowing how passionately (and sarcastically) he views the subject…I have to say he was extremely respectful about posting it and had nice things to say in general about the whole piece even if part of it’s contents were incredibly offensive to him. So, with that in mind, I think he’s not as quick to offensive. That’s only a personal opinion, of course, and I am completely in your corner in respect to the content of this post. :)

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  6. HAHAHA this thread made my night. OM has an entirely different motive for writing which has its own merits. Recently he talked about how he will never post pictures of himself or tell you details about his life. He doesn’t write in a way to say, “hey world, this is who I am.” He writes to attract an audience.

    However to OM, over the past year you have been growing your blog. Now that you have so many followers I think there is a sense of power that comes from it. I mean, you have a larger audience than the New York Times,lol. There are a lot of positive directions you could take your blog if you chose to. Either way I wish you the best on what ever direction you take.

    Mindful: I fully agree in the statements you made. You write more from your heart and try and tell the world what you think and feel and appeal to them in that way. Another way to make your writing more effective could be making it less hostile. You have a lot of valid points that get missed in the hype. You wont change anyone’s minds or hearts by insulting them.

    Anyways, this thread made my night,lol. Hope this thread didn’t cause any stress outside of the cyberweb. Life is too short wasted on arguments that don’t go anywhere.

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  7. I’m not jumping in on the little blogger war that is going on here because that’s just not my thing and life is too short to get all stressed out and defensive at each other’s opinions. I just wanted to write a quick reply to say that I agree with your “pro-life AND pro-choice” ideas. I don’t like the idea of abortion myself and I know that I personally could never do it because even a week-old fetus FEELS like a baby to me. But on the other side of the coin I am 100% for a woman’s right to choose for herself because things aren’t always as cut and dry as “I don’t want to have this baby”. There are tons of possibilities (maybe the woman has medical problems and would be putting her own life at risk by having a baby, maybe the pregnant woman in question is a thirteen-year-old girl who was raped, etc), and forcing women to have babies that they may not have intended to have or CANNOT have safely is a horrible thing to me. That’s my two cents.

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  8. A few observations about the comments:

    If you are concerned about pingbacks being a sneaky way to drive readership from your blog and you don’t want that for some reason you can turn it off. There is an option in settings to do that. People can still link to your blog, but it won’t show the pingback in the comments on the original blogger’s site.
    If a post is reblogged any readers won’t have to click over to the original poster’s blog to read the post. If it’s linked you have to click over to the original poster’s blog to read it, generating views.
    When a blogger pings back to a post I rarely, if ever, click on the pingback notification in the original poster’s comments. But when a post is reblogged the comments of the reblogger appear in the comments of the original poster in their entirety. That could generate a pretty lengthy comment in the original poster’s comments section if the reblogger generates and entire post of their own.
    If a person does click on the pingback, the pinger hasn’t technically stolen any views. An interested reader would have first had to be visiting the original poster’s blog and drilled down to the comments to see the pingback to begin with. I fail to see how that is stealing viewers.

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    • Ruth I merely was pointing out the difference, as you have, and that “sliding in of a pingback” is a sneak way of connecting. You may not click it, but on my site those do get clicked hundreds of times sometimes. I host an open website though, censor free, so I do have to make the extra effort.

      In Doobster’s case this was said as a jab. If I was really concerned I would have just ignored him, he knows this. I am sure. -OM

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          • I meant the whole pingback thing.

            The subject matter of the post is another thing entirely. I happen to agree with Doobster about much of what he’s written. Many pro-lifers feel that the logical conclusion of a pro-choice advocate is necessarily pro-abortion and/or pro-death. I think that’s more of a caricature of the pro-choice position and intended to garner pro-life sympathy based on shock-value.

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  9. I had my son two weeks before my 18th birthday. The day I found out I was pregnant I burst out in tears, the doctor looked at me and said,” well first we got to decide if we’re going to take this to term.” I cried even more. “well what about adoption” I cried louder. “what about keeping the baby” I cried.
    I present to you that is simply a impossible situation, no matter what one decides that woman (and hopefully the father) have to live with the consequences. Take my friend for example, she got pregnant when she was sixteen. Her parents were against the whole thing and eventually she moved in with the baby daddy. He turned out to be a control freak but she married him and she was stuck there.
    I can’t tell you what the right decision is but I can tell you its far more complicated than those who have never been in that moment to understand.

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  10. At least he doesn’t refer to his followers as disciples like that one douche bag. It’s probably the defining characteristic that let’s me continue to follow OM despite not agreeing or being interested in much of what he writes. Seems like a decent human though.

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  11. Excellently written! Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and we have the freedom to publicize it – but that also gives us the right to disagree.
    Being pro-choice does NOT mean one advocates abortion.
    Of course maybe if OM ever grew a vagina, he would better understand that abortion is not a black or white issue and that the ramifications of having one / not having one are greater on women.

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  12. I’m late checking in here and it looks like the party’s over. But I would remind everyone that a blogger creates a persona through their posts, and much of it is very calculated. A blogger may put out a character that is a lot like themselves, or maybe the self they would like to be, or even something completely different. As a reader, I approach the material with this in mind. Therefore, outrageous statements don’t typically offend me because I figure the blogger does that to get a reaction. Some may even go so far as to deliberately take a controversial line to get more of a reaction. Especially if they don’t put their own name on such material. It’s hard to take that approach seriously, and one is never sure if one is actually being graced with the actual opinion of the blogger or not. I trust someone a lot more if they take a reasoned approach and don’t act like their opinion is the center of the universe. At some point, I decided Opinionated Man’s blog persona was that of an egomaniacal asshole. He may or may not really be that character. But I don’t care. That’s tolerable to me only to a certain point. Then I stop reading. But that’s me. I believe you are what you pretend to be–which is the moral of Mother Night, a novel by Kurt Vonnegut, who was a writer who felt very strongly about the vibe you put out into the world and being kinder and more respectful to other humans. Life is about more than blog views, I think he would say…

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    • Better late than never, they say.

      I’m sure some of OM’s more over-the-top posts are intended to spark controversy, generate traffic to his site, and solicit numerous comments. With 33,000 followers, whether you like him or not, he seems to be pretty successful at it. And sometimes, I can’t help but react to what he’s posted, even though I know I should probably just let it go.

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  13. Oh My! I am sorry I missed this! These comments are great. I just found your blog and I love your writing (this post in particular is very well done). I follow OM and enjoy his writing and sense of humor although we disagree on almost everything. I am so happy to have found a blog with equal wit and less well…disagreement.

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  14. What an interesting post. I followed your link from another post. I agree with everything you said. I do “follow” OM and have responded in comments to several things he says and we agree to disagree on several points. One of them abortion. I am of the same mind as you where this issue is concerned. It was a balanced and well thought out post. The replies were just as informative and you didn’t pull punches or get disrespectful. Congrats!

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  15. I fully agree with everything that you said on this post about abortion and that blogger dude. People can rationalize that abortion is murder and that it’s wrong but what they don’t get is that it’s an opinion and not a fact…an opinion that is not shared by many so labeling people as ‘murderers’ is a bit extreme. An aborted fetus may not have had a choice but a baby born into this world never asked to be born into a shitty situation. It’s easy to tell someone to go and have that baby but they’re not the ones who have to take care of it.

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    • “It’s easy to tell someone to go and have that baby but they’re not the ones who have to take care of it.” Exactly. And those who propose having the baby and then putting it up for adoption don’t get that (1) there aren’t enough adoptive parents around to do that if suddenly there were no more abortions, and (2) unless the baby is healthy and white, its chance of being adopted is very, very small.

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